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		<title>By: John Ballinger</title>
		<link>http://rowansimpson.com/2007/05/15/a-conversation-about-an-api/#comment-1162</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Ballinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rowan,

The Auckland Web Meetup has 260 members with 120 attending the last monthly meetup.   We talk about a lot of new technogies and last month was no different.  Next month we are going to talk about creating and consuming web API&#039;s (or mashups), but the point I want to make is that our next meeting is going to be really exciting. There are some amazing API&#039;s out there like Facebook, Amazon S3, Google, Google Maps etc etc.

My point is that if you build it, will they come?  My argument is that there are so many more tools now available other than Java and .net.  At the meetup I am pushing the Adobe AIR platform that allows just about every single member of the group to create Rich Desktop applications using their existing skill set of HTML, Javascript and/or Flex.  Adobe AIR looks extremely exciting and that excitement I intend to spread to the members of our group in the next month (since I run the thing).  I have also had huge success with developing for API&#039;s using the AIR framework with Adobe profiling my software in the AIR showcase and Computer World article page 3 (and a little tiny photo on the cover) all in about 4 weeks from staring on AIR.  

It would be really exciting stuff if you did launch this and I would love to talk about your shiny new (or up and coming) API at our next meetup which will easily have another 120 web developers hungry for more tools.  

http://webdesign.meetup.com/108/calendar/5890211/

It wont surprise me if you competition doesn&#039;t start this soon either, I have been making a lot of noise about this up here and I am getting a lot of great feedback so far.

John]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rowan,</p>
<p>The Auckland Web Meetup has 260 members with 120 attending the last monthly meetup.   We talk about a lot of new technogies and last month was no different.  Next month we are going to talk about creating and consuming web API&#8217;s (or mashups), but the point I want to make is that our next meeting is going to be really exciting. There are some amazing API&#8217;s out there like Facebook, Amazon S3, Google, Google Maps etc etc.</p>
<p>My point is that if you build it, will they come?  My argument is that there are so many more tools now available other than Java and .net.  At the meetup I am pushing the Adobe AIR platform that allows just about every single member of the group to create Rich Desktop applications using their existing skill set of HTML, Javascript and/or Flex.  Adobe AIR looks extremely exciting and that excitement I intend to spread to the members of our group in the next month (since I run the thing).  I have also had huge success with developing for API&#8217;s using the AIR framework with Adobe profiling my software in the AIR showcase and Computer World article page 3 (and a little tiny photo on the cover) all in about 4 weeks from staring on AIR.  </p>
<p>It would be really exciting stuff if you did launch this and I would love to talk about your shiny new (or up and coming) API at our next meetup which will easily have another 120 web developers hungry for more tools.  </p>
<p><a href="http://webdesign.meetup.com/108/calendar/5890211/" rel="nofollow">http://webdesign.meetup.com/108/calendar/5890211/</a></p>
<p>It wont surprise me if you competition doesn&#8217;t start this soon either, I have been making a lot of noise about this up here and I am getting a lot of great feedback so far.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://rowansimpson.com/2007/05/15/a-conversation-about-an-api/#comment-841</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 03:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I run a business on TM and am a large seller (8000+ feedback). I&#039;m wanting to add a voice asking (begging) for an API. We are wasting time and money having to do tasks manually when they could be done with some software. 

As to when to update developers on changes, well just doing that when they happen would be nice for a start! At the moment if TM changes something theres usually some time before I see something isn&#039;t working with TM, then I have to work out wether it is the software or some new TM update. And then I have to inform the developer and wait for the fix, all the while getting pissed off at TM.

So come on, get an API up and help out the people who are paying you your revenues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I run a business on TM and am a large seller (8000+ feedback). I&#8217;m wanting to add a voice asking (begging) for an API. We are wasting time and money having to do tasks manually when they could be done with some software. </p>
<p>As to when to update developers on changes, well just doing that when they happen would be nice for a start! At the moment if TM changes something theres usually some time before I see something isn&#8217;t working with TM, then I have to work out wether it is the software or some new TM update. And then I have to inform the developer and wait for the fix, all the while getting pissed off at TM.</p>
<p>So come on, get an API up and help out the people who are paying you your revenues.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Riversdale</title>
		<link>http://rowansimpson.com/2007/05/15/a-conversation-about-an-api/#comment-609</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Riversdale]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 04:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And Stuart has taken my Pipe and extended it - on him:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://stuart.amanzi.co.nz/2007/05/16/trademe-member-listings-in-yahoo-pipes/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://stuart.amanzi.co.nz/2007/05/16/trademe-member-listings-in-yahoo-pipes/&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Stuart has taken my Pipe and extended it &#8211; on him:<br />
<a href="http://stuart.amanzi.co.nz/2007/05/16/trademe-member-listings-in-yahoo-pipes/" rel="nofollow">http://stuart.amanzi.co.nz/2007/05/16/trademe-member-listings-in-yahoo-pipes/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Grant Wells</title>
		<link>http://rowansimpson.com/2007/05/15/a-conversation-about-an-api/#comment-592</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grant Wells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 01:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rowan, there are 3 key reasons why TM needs an API

1) Evolve or Die -- you are seriously limiting your rate of innovation, by effectively constraining your backend dev to an inhouse team only, and while you focus at the  front end only your base business is vulnerable

2) One idea does not a business make - you don&#039;t know what you don&#039;t know, until there are many more eyes and brains offering solutions you don&#039;t get to cherry pick for the new opportunities.

3)Risk is bad = serious businesses will limit their trading, although TM does have a robust front end, and I have a robust backend it is joined by a dodgey bit of electric string brokered via auctionitis...which in turn violates TM&#039;s T&amp;C&#039;s... double yuk

thats it.

p.s. Lances analogy/stats with ebay are spurious, clearly ebay&#039;s poor stats can be attributed to not hosting their servers in NZ... ref. church of the flying spaghetti monster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:FSM_Pirates.jpg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rowan, there are 3 key reasons why TM needs an API</p>
<p>1) Evolve or Die &#8212; you are seriously limiting your rate of innovation, by effectively constraining your backend dev to an inhouse team only, and while you focus at the  front end only your base business is vulnerable</p>
<p>2) One idea does not a business make &#8211; you don&#8217;t know what you don&#8217;t know, until there are many more eyes and brains offering solutions you don&#8217;t get to cherry pick for the new opportunities.</p>
<p>3)Risk is bad = serious businesses will limit their trading, although TM does have a robust front end, and I have a robust backend it is joined by a dodgey bit of electric string brokered via auctionitis&#8230;which in turn violates TM&#8217;s T&amp;C&#8217;s&#8230; double yuk</p>
<p>thats it.</p>
<p>p.s. Lances analogy/stats with ebay are spurious, clearly ebay&#8217;s poor stats can be attributed to not hosting their servers in NZ&#8230; ref. church of the flying spaghetti monster <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:FSM_Pirates.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:FSM_Pirates.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: eBay fierfox extension toolbar &#171; Lance Wiggs</title>
		<link>http://rowansimpson.com/2007/05/15/a-conversation-about-an-api/#comment-556</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eBay fierfox extension toolbar &#171; Lance Wiggs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 20:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] May 16th, 2007   auctions , Internet Business      Just to add some more fuel to Rowan&#8217;s on-going discussion of a Trade Me API and gadgets, a group of Stanford design(!) students releases a Firefox eBay [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] May 16th, 2007   auctions , Internet Business      Just to add some more fuel to Rowan&#8217;s on-going discussion of a Trade Me API and gadgets, a group of Stanford design(!) students releases a Firefox eBay [...]</p>
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		<title>By: stuart @ amanzi &#187; Rowan Simpson on Trademe and APIs</title>
		<link>http://rowansimpson.com/2007/05/15/a-conversation-about-an-api/#comment-550</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stuart @ amanzi &#187; Rowan Simpson on Trademe and APIs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 11:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Simpson from Trademe continues the discussion about why Trademe doesn&#8217;t have an API. As I mentioned in his original post, I personally [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Simpson from Trademe continues the discussion about why Trademe doesn&#8217;t have an API. As I mentioned in his original post, I personally [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rowan</title>
		<link>http://rowansimpson.com/2007/05/15/a-conversation-about-an-api/#comment-549</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rowan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 09:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry Ben.  I&#039;ve fixed that broken link:

http://www.wellies.org/trademe/member_listings_gadget.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Ben.  I&#8217;ve fixed that broken link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wellies.org/trademe/member_listings_gadget.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wellies.org/trademe/member_listings_gadget.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: benkepes</title>
		<link>http://rowansimpson.com/2007/05/15/a-conversation-about-an-api/#comment-547</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[benkepes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 07:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ex google

Sorry, http://www.wellies.org/trademe/tra is unavailable. Please try another result.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ex google</p>
<p>Sorry, <a href="http://www.wellies.org/trademe/tra" rel="nofollow">http://www.wellies.org/trademe/tra</a> is unavailable. Please try another result.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Cooney</title>
		<link>http://rowansimpson.com/2007/05/15/a-conversation-about-an-api/#comment-546</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Cooney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 07:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eventfinder has an API ... quite good ...

http://www.eventfinder.co.nz/content/api.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eventfinder has an API &#8230; quite good &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eventfinder.co.nz/content/api.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.eventfinder.co.nz/content/api.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
		<link>http://rowansimpson.com/2007/05/15/a-conversation-about-an-api/#comment-545</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 05:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well thank you for this nice read and the ping-back to my eBay review!

Watch out for the next review. It is about an extension I wanted to see a long time in Firefox...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well thank you for this nice read and the ping-back to my eBay review!</p>
<p>Watch out for the next review. It is about an extension I wanted to see a long time in Firefox&#8230;</p>
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